It's just sad that joining NATO is like joining a bunch of children playing make-believe. European NATO members have essentially zero capability to withstand aggression, and the USA will almost certainly leave NATO either de jure or de facto once the creature Trump is back in the White House in 2025. So the idea that joining NATO is a guarantee of anything other than complacent impotence is erroneous. It's worth listening to the Perun interview on YouTube with retired US General Ben Hodges as he talks about NATO's training efforts regarding Ukrainian troops - it's revealing of the West's near-total failure to grasp its own incapacity.